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 Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform?, Winfield, September 5, 2003
     Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform? , Tony Vuolo, September 8, 2003
         Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform? , mikael bergkvist, September 9, 2003
             Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform? , Erik Arvidsson, September 13, 2003
     Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform?, Erik Arvidsson, September 5, 2003
     Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform?, mikael bergkvist, September 5, 2003

Subject: Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform? From: mikael bergkvist Date: September 9, 2003

The patent is not about 'plugins' per se, but rather embedding 'foreign applications' in another, making it possible to control the one from the other, having it interact as a part of the controlling application.
So we need a 'master' and a 'slave' for this.
Otherwise, the whole networking-concept would crash and burn.
And it also applies foremost to 'hypermedia'.
Like Java embedded in html.
- Otherwise, I could add 'plugins' to my car.
And what about the harddrives, or anything else run by the operative?

This patent borderlines madness to be honest, and they should realise that.

From: Tony Vuolo
Sent: September 8, 2003
Subject: Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform?

Isn't a plugin truly just an OO thing regardless of where this design concept is implemented?  A PLugin has to do with runtime type reflection, late binding to an object and interface implementation.  Any application can be built to allow for a "plugin" to execute if that plugin implements appropriate interfaces and some how makes itself known to the calling application.  Why would it matter what particular task the calling applicaton was performing or what type of information the calling application was passing to the "plugin" to process?  So in the case of an IE behavior the behavior implementes a few know interfaces and gets a reference to the parent DOM.  Why is this any different than me writing a plugin for an ecommerce site where I implement an interface that receives a reference to a shopping cart?

Tony 

From: Winfield
Sent: September 5, 2003
Subject: Re:Eoalas patent: the end of DHTML as component platform?

MS says it is going to have to change IE to comply with the Eolas patent case. Scriptlets have been targeted, so I assume element behaviors are in violation as well. So much for custom tags and HTML extensibility. Which is a shame, because this was (imo) dhtml's best shot at becoming a true application platform...






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